Busy Week | Thanksgiving Training Ses../HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

From Icey:

Also dont forget about the Tournament coming up this week.

Server: Outback

Room: Snow Forts

When: Saturday, November 28th

Time: Eastern: 7:00 PM    Central: 6:00 PM    Mountain: 5:00 PM   Pacific: 4:00 PM    UK: 12:00 AM

Obviously, most UK troops won’t be able to make it, but we have to have these times because a lot of US troops have school on Wednesday, and having a Thanksgiving Tournament after Thanksgiving wouldn’t make much sense.

BE ON IW CHAT DURING THIS EVENT!

From the CPAZ site:

Pilgrims Uniform:

pilgrim Uniform

Here are the teams:

Pilgrim Team:

  • Ice Warriors(ACCEPTED)(Team Captain)
  • Nachos
  • Watex Warriors
  • Underground Mafias Army
  • Hot Sauce Army(ACCEPTED)
  • Black Panthers
  • Joint Task Force (Greg’s Army) (ACCEPTED)
  • Dark Magicians (ACCEPTED)
  • Any Army that wants to be in this team…

Well, Ive been getting kinda bored… so im going to pull out some plans I had back in 2007-2008 and some new plans.

First off, we will only be having 2 Divisions. I and the other IW high ranks will decide what divisions will merge and if we will need to switch people around. We will also be changing the names of the 2 new divisions. Right now you can comment ONEdivision name that you think fits in with the army. I will be making a poll on Wednesday and it will end on Saturday.

Practice Battles:

With other armies: Obviously this is going to be VERY hard to have a practice battle with another army. ACP is to big for us to fight, and the Nachos are the only other army we could fight, but it would be fun after fighting them once or twice a month, but then it will get boring. Back in 2007 we have a war/practice battle every Saturday at 1:00PM EST. So, starting the first week of December we wil lbe having practice battles with other armies OR with our divisions.

Division practice battles: Like I said before, after we get our 2 new divisions, theres going to be a lot of changes. We could have a weekly practice battle between our 2 divisions and see which division can win the most practice battles each month.

The 2 new Divisions: These new divisions wont be like any of the old ones. For starters, each of them will have a website + a chat. Depending on what division your in, you will look at your division website PLUS the IW website. The chats are for division practice battles and CERTAIN wars ONLY. I will make the commands of when to use the division chats during wars.

Recruiting: Every Sunday and Wednesday afternoon we will have recruiting sessions. Just like every recruiting session, you will go to IW chat and go to the server and room we are recruiting at. Remember to say, “LOOK UP ICE WARRIORS ARMY” over and over again on CP.

War tactics: Every Friday LATE afternoon we will have training/tactic sessions. These will train us for wars and show our new AND old tactics.

All of these events will be starting the first week of December.

As you can see we have a busy week ahead of us. I hope many of you attend these events. Make sure to leave a comment stating if you’ll be able to make the events.

War has come home

bye for now,

~ Iceyfeet1234

Emergency Senate Meeting

When: Wednesday, November 25

Where: Ice Warriors Congress Chat

Who: Senators
(Senator 381Nascar, Senator Zipper1009, Senator Darkfins9, Senator King Kinz10, Senator Jerry 2 Cool, Senator Bottlefanta, Senator Gord17, Senator Honkzo6, Senator Gadunka345,  Senator Eyes2)

Times: 5:00 pm pst

6:00 pm mst

7:00 pm cst

8:00 pm est

1:00am UK

The title says it all we will be having a busy week these following two weeks so be prepared. During the next 2 weeks we will be having recruiting sessions and 5 PB’s. The reason for which I am scheduling this is because we need to get prepared for the Christmas Tourney ACP is scheduling. So in order for us to be prepared we need to work on a lot of things. We will be having recruiting sessions Monday-Wednesday (except for Wednesday the 25th and Thanksgiving Thursday) for the next two weeks and 6 PB’s each weekend Friday-Sunday for the next 2 weeks. Wednesday will be the day we practice Tactics so it will be a Training Session. Each Event will be worth 2 Medals so it is very important for you to come, especially to the PB’s. Also since Davon (Sriv) recently updated the Government Page I suggest we have a meeting sometime in the next 2 weeks.

PB against UMA

When:Friday, November 27

Where:Ice Palace Snow Forts

Times:4:00pm pst

5:00pm mst

6:00pm cst

7:00pm est

12:00am UK

PB against GW

When:Saturday, November 28

Where:Sub Zero Snow Forts

Times:12:00pm pst

1:00pm mst

2:00pm cst

3:00pm est

8:00pm UK

PB against Nachos

When:Sunday, November 29

Where:Fjord Snow Forts

Times:11:00am pst

12:00pm mst

1:00pm cst

2:00pm est

7:00pm UK

PB against HSA

When:Friday, December 4

Where:Half Pipe Snow Forts

Times:4:30 pm pst

5:30pm mst

6:30pm cst

7:30pm est

12:30am UK

PB against Sun Troopers

When:Saturday December 5

Where:Parka Snow Forts

Times:12:00pm pst

1:00pm mst

2:00pm cst

3:00pm est

8:00pm UK

Recruiting Sessions

When:Monday-Wednesday(except for Wednesday the 25th and Thanksgiving Thursday)

Where:North Pole Town or Sub Zero Town

Why:To get more recruits

Times:4:00pm pst

5:00pm mst

6:00pm cst

7:00pm est

12:00am UK

Note:Remember to say “Look Up Club Penguin Ice Warriors” “Ice Warriors Ice Warriors Ice Warriors” “Join Ice Warriors Army Today” “Ice Warriors Rule” and whatever else you can think of that has something to do with IW.

Tactic Session

When: Sunday, December 6

Where: Cold Front Snow Forts

Time:4:00pm pst

5:00pm mst

6:00pm cst

7:00pm est

12:00am UK

Thanksgiving Training Session

Lorenzo Bean: Well we need training earlier than December 6 so we’re going to have a sesh on Thanksgiving early afternoon because a lot of people eat dinner early at like 3 or 4, so we can have training while we wait for our din dins xD

When: Thursday, November 26 (Thanksgiving)

Where: Deep Freeze

Time:
2:00 pm EST
1:00 pm CST
12:00 pm MST
11:00 am PST
7:00 pm UK

Yes, some times are more towards morning, but at least it’s before most people eat dinner.

Senate Meeting

When: Saturday, December 5

Where: Ice Warriors Congress Chat

Who: Everyone who has a Government Job

Times: 5:00 pm pst

6:00 pm mst

7:00 pm cst

8:00 pm est

1:00am UK

~Rugrat IW Advisor~

FW Skirmish

This afternoon FW raided UMA’s server Mittens, so we went in to help UMA since they only had like 3 troops. Things went okay, but half our chat was idle and people weren’t very responsive to the orders. DW came in and was originally helping UMA, but then some dude in UMA pissed Saw off, so they switched to FW’s side and that’s what cost us the battle.

First skirmish at the Town; looks like there are a few FW bots but who cares, everyone's past that now xD

Battling at the Dock

Charged at the Dock

Well, I can’t say it was that much fun, primarily because again, troops weren’t cooperating very well. Guys, something a lot of you don’t understand is that if you aren’t participating in our wars the best you can, then you aren’t going to have fun. The whole point of being in a Club Penguin army is to go out and battle each other and win. You can’t win if you aren’t having fun. So if you all just follow orders promptly, and don’t ask stupid questions during wars, you’re going to enjoy fighting for this army a hell of a lot more than you are right now. Icey’s call for training sessions every Friday is wise, because all we seem to do is joke and puffle bomb which gets boring after a while -.- See you guys on the field…

~Lorenzo Bean

Lets have some Fun

UPDATE: TIMES HAVE BEEN SHIFTED LATER. DONT FORGET ABOUT THE THANKSGIVING TOURNAMENT ON WEDNESDAY:

Server: Outback

Room: Snow Forts

When: Wednesday, November 25

Time: Eastern: 7:00 PM    Central: 6:00 PM    Mountain: 5:00 PM   Pacific: 4:00 PM    UK: 12:00 AM

Obviously, most UK troops won’t be able to make it, but we have to have these times because a lot of US troops have school on Wednesday, and having a Thanksgiving Tournament after Thanksgiving wouldn’t make much sense.

BE ON IW CHAT DURING THIS EVENT!

From the CPAZ site:

Pilgrims Uniform:

pilgrim

Here are the teams:

Pilgrim Team:

  • Ice Warriors(ACCEPTED)(Team Captain)
  • Nachos
  • Watex Warriors
  • Underground Mafias Army
  • Hot Sauce Army(ACCEPTED)
  • Black Panthers
  • Joint Task Force (Greg’s Army) (ACCEPTED)
  • Any Army that wants to be in this team…

Well, Ive been getting kinda bored… so im going to pull out some plans I had back in 2007-2008 and some new plans.

First off, we will only be having 2 Divisions. I and the other IW high ranks will decide what divisions will merge and if we will need to switch people around. We will also be changing the names of the 2 new divisions. Right now you can comment ONE division name that you think fits in with the army. I will be making a poll on Wednesday and it will end on Saturday.

Practice Battles:

With other armies: Obviously this is going to be VERY hard to have a practice battle with another army. ACP is to big for us to fight, and the Nachos are the only other army we could fight, but it would be fun after fighting them once or twice a month, but then it will get boring. Back in 2007 we have a war/practice battle every Saturday at 1:00PM EST. So, starting the first week of December we wil lbe having practice battles with other armies OR with our divisions.

Division practice battles: Like I said before, after we get our 2 new divisions, theres going to be a lot of changes. We could have a weekly practice battle between our 2 divisions and see which division can win the most practice battles each month.

The 2 new Divisions: These new divisions wont be like any of the old ones. For starters, each of them will have a website + a chat. Depending on what division your in, you will look at your division website PLUS the IW website. The chats are for division practice battles and CERTAIN wars ONLY. I will make the commands of when to use the division chats during wars.

Recruiting: Every Sunday and Wednesday afternoon we will have recruiting sessions. Just like every recruiting session, you will go to IW chat and go to the server and room we are recruiting at. Remember to say, “LOOK UP ICE WARRIORS ARMY” over and over again on CP.

War tactics: Every Friday LATE afternoon we will have training/tactic sessions. These will train us for wars and show our new AND old tactics.

All of these events will be starting the first week of December.

War has come home

bye for now,

~ Iceyfeet1234

RE: Aka’s leadership

~~~The war is canceled because it appears that Person is back in Nachos and fired some kids, trying to get things back in control, etc.~~~

CONTAINS SWEARING. VIEWER DISCRETION ADVISED.

Yo, what it do, it’s Davon here just giving you a little insider information that I believe on Aka, on his “M’kay” Post.

…and the fact that fighting on CP doesn’t really mean anything, you have to get bored sometime. Especially when I don’t have Team Fortress 2 with me. So I’m going to play Left 4 Dead. I am not the perfect leader, nor is Boomer, nor is Jayson, nor is ANYBODY. I seriously have other things to be doing than managing this army every second of my life; a site that get 900-1,000 views a day.

Now what I thought to myself, when I saw this, is what in Jesus name… Yes, I understand that as older people, we have other things to do, as I experience that myself. But dude.. If you have so much other stuff to do, then why are you keeping yourself from doing it by being leader of Nachos. If you SERIOUSLY have other things to do, then do Nacho’s a favor by stepping aside or retiring, and let Nacho’s decide whether who is the right fit as their leader. Keep in mind, we already know you aren’t perfect because we’ve seen many of your trifling mistakes before.

3. WE ARE NOT ACP OR ICE WARRIORS. Boomer needs to realize that he cannot fix another person’s army unless you were actually in the god damn army in the first place. So go back to your army of noobs and lead them the way YOU want to lead them, and I’ll lead MY army the way I want to lead it. M’kay?

Okay. Boomer, or rather Eric, is just trying to give you advice and help you guys out. We’ve seen you guys start falling ever since the Mass war we had in September. We tried to keep things to ourselves, but we’re finally starting to speak out because it’s starting to get worse and worse. Don’t you remember, when Nacho’s were the topic of most conversations? And during the louder part of this September, you would rarely hear things about them. It was because they had a bunch of crap that nobody had time to watch. We’ve all wondered what Tom Wolf, and Zippy500 would say if they came to just spectate on what was going on.

I gave everyone here jobs to do so that even when I am in absense, they have things that are expected to do. If you guys cannot schedule your own shit, then that’s your loss. I’m not about to allow ACP and Ice Warriors ruin this army (what friends they are, amirite), so I’m going to lead this army the same as it’s ever been: Through WORK, DETERMINATION (to end this rebellion), and FIRE AND BRIMSTONE.

What? You aren’t going to allow ACP and Ice Warriors ruin this army?? Um, I thought it’s been damaged alot already. Yes, you guys get people on chat, but um.. xD.. And the, you gave everyone here jobs to do so part, that’s probably a piece of the pie right there. You have the WRONG people power to handle some leader issues. Aka, you have lowered Nacho’s highly-set standards. Please don’t use “WORK, DETERMINATION…” because the work you have shown is atrocious in the past months. Now, I’m not saying if you are a complete mess of a leader. I’m just saying that you could improve on ALOT of key points, IF you want to keep people’s respect. I mean, really. People who have other things to do will just go ahead and do it and stop lagging behind. STOP stressing about trying to lead Nachos. Your time is up, if you feel that way. Be like the others who’ve left because they had other things to do, and a life to persue.

- Davon

“Post by Boomer”/Iceys Top 10 Army List

Iceyfeet Edit: I am asking for EVERYONES HELP! You see, im trying to get my suggestion to be real and I need as many votes as I can. So please follow these steps:

1. Go to http://util.xat.com/vote/story.php?title=the-exchange
2. Make sure your logged in to your xat acount. If you arnt, click log in on the left side
3. Click “vote” on the left side under the number.
4. Spread the word to your friends.

My goal is to get 100+ votes by Saturday, November 21st. Remember, spread the word!

Icey Edit: [I already talked to boomer awhile ago about this XD]

Check Out Dan’s Post ‘Revelations’, |Click Here|

Iceyfeet Edit #2: I have made a top 10 armies list. This list shows the top 10 armies AND size. These picks are solely from MY opinion.

1. ACP
2. IW
WORLD POWER
3. Nachos
4. GW
5. Tacos
MAJOR ARMY
6. HSA
7. WW
LARGE ARMY
8. IMAF
9. UMA
10. BB
MEDIUM-LARGE ARMY

—————————————————————————————————–

I have been watching the Nacho site for weeks now and have not been able to find a single post of much relevance to the army. Between Jayson not posting at all and Aka’s posts of some random video and message saying “Comment” the Nachos have fallen a great deal. Not to mention the hostility Aka in particular has shown ACP in the past. Some of us think it’s time for a change.

Aka and Jayson have been in armies longer than most of our penguins have even existed. There is no denying what they have accomplished, but at the same time, it has become apparent neither care enough anymore to be effective leaders of the Nachos. For this reason, Icey and I have been called in to dispose of them.

ACP and IW will be declaring unrelenting war on the Nachos until Aka and Jayson are out of power. The first such event will take place this Wednesday.  ACP and IW will invade two separate servers simultaneously, taking out Shiver and White House.  Pack your bags soldiers, we’re off to war.

WAR

When: Wednesday, November 18, 2009

Where: Shiver, Snow Forts

Chat: IW Chat

Times:

3:30 pm PST

4:30 pm MST

5:30 pm CST

6:30 pm EST

11:30 pm U.K.

We need all soldiers to attend, this is going to be a big war! Do your best to get there 30 minutes early for recruiting!

Comment if you can make it, and let’s take these guys out!

~Boomer

Revelations…

Before I begin, I would just like to let you all know that this will be quite a long speech but I think most of you will enjoy reading it. It is important to understand what you are about to read, so try to make the best of it…

The Ice Warriors of Club Penguin. More than 2 and a half years of existence. Throughout the whole time we have grown, shrunk, shined, and weaken. The only thing that has not changed the entire time is our leader: Iceyfeet1234, a leader who has shown more dedication to his army than anyone else. This army has had many honorable troops come and go. Our pinnacle was during the months of 2007, after Icey created Ice Warriors. What we like to refer to as the “Glory Days”, or the “Golden Age”, as many would describe for all Club Penguin Armies, was most definitely during that time. That was when troops were disciplined, obedient, and used their heads more than their mouths (or fingers, rather).We would get on right after school and immediately patrol our servers, looking for a fight. But we would have little breaks, where we did what we now do all the time on chat. It is a new day. Things are not like that anymore. And to me, that is not a good thing…

In today’s Ice Warriors, the join page is filled with hundreds of comments. But only a handful of those comments are written by people who actually bother to fight for Ice Warriors. Most people just comment because they want their name to be on a site that gets hundreds of views each day. 2 years ago, you enlisted and made a commitment. And that’s how it still should be. But unfortunately, that is something we cannot control. However, there are many other things that we can control.

It seems like everyday I come on our chat, people are either talking about two things: Promotions, or xats/days. Maybe I don’t react harshly to that, but it does anger me quite a bit. Few troops seem to understand that if you ask for a promotion, you aren’t going to be getting one anytime soon. It’s just like a real army. What do you think would happen if you just asked the general for a promotion? For God’s sake, being in army is not about getting promoted and being a mod or owner on our chat! You joined Ice Warriors to have fun, and fight wars on Club Penguin! And I’m going to be very frank with you all, if you aren’t having fun here, then you might as well quit right now. We don’t need people who are sarcastic about this and just don’t care. So just leave this army to make it easier for everyone else here.

One of the most important things that we lack here is respect for the high ranks. Back in 2007, it was normal for everyone to say “yes sir” after Icey or another high rank gave a command. Now, when he gives an order, either someone else tries to give a different order, or people just continue carrying on their everyday conversations. Guys, you have no right whatsoever to think that leading and managing an army at this size is easy stuff. It’s not just the demand of leading the army, we have emotional and moral factors too. You all have no idea what it’s like for me to still be in this army after 2 years. It’s not just me, but Sriv and Icey too. We’ve seen generation after generation of troops pass through Ice Warriors, and each time one passes by, we lose good friends. We miss our old comrades from 2007 and 2008. And being in this army after we have seen so much change is very difficult for us. But we are dealing with that sorrow to continue leading this army and bringing it to success. So really, just don’t be thinking that this isn’t stressful for the leaders and commanding officers.

Something that’s been an issue for the past couple weeks is the upkeep of the site. Since I was sick with chicken pox and at home, all the people who work on the site kind of just let the work fall into my hands. I updated the ranks, made a lot of posts, and managed the active count. Then I revised the divisions. And it gets very tedious after a while. Now I’m back in school, and I just can’t deal with all that anymore. I will do some things, but I can’t just update everything immediately. I mean, I’m in 9th grade. I got stuff to do and people to see. Now here’s an anecdote for you all to learn something about me. Right now, I have my sights set on becoming a pianist. I plan to go to a nice music college like Berkley or something and become a performing musician. About a year ago, I was told that I had the potential to become a world class musician because of my talent. I have tried out many different musical activities like band in school (I played percussion and it sucked in middle school xD), and all the instructors or teachers I’ve ever had have told my parents that I have outstanding musical ability. Because of that, I now practice piano about 2 hours every day. Out of choice. It probably sounds crazy to most of you, but sensible people would not be surprised by it. Instead of spending 5 hours on the computer wasting time telling people they aren’t going to get promoted, I’m actually doing something useful. If you think that it’s okay for you to spend your days on the internet because you believe it builds your “social skills”, that’s perfectly fine with me because that’s your problem, your life, and not mine. So that’s why I just can’t accommodate all the needs here. The other owner ranks have to step it up and do some work. But I also think we need to bring someone new into the picture.

We need someone who is relatively young like 11-12 to assume a commanding position. Why? Because logically, younger kids can get on more often than older kids can. And right now, all the owner ranks are older kids. And we just don’t have the time to be here all the time helping you guys out. That’s why we need someone young who gets on a lot so they can help us upkeep the site and manage the troops. It’s not like we’re going to be using them, it’s just impossible for us to run this army well because of our SCHEDULES (Icey read that word carefully ROFL). So that’s just an idea and we’ll have to talk about that.

Guys, pretty much what I’m trying to say is, you all gotta shape up. If you do that, then we’re going to have a lot more fun. Maybe you all think that we act a lot better than many major armies now, and even if we do, it’s just not acceptable to me, Sriv, and Icey, who know what real good behavior in an army is like. So please, just STOP ASKING FOR PROMOTIONS, OR WHEN THE NEXT PROMOTION DAY WILL BE!!! You are a hell of a lot more likely to get a promotion if you don’t ask, and most importantly, don’t whine about it. This army simple really needs to improve, but we as the leaders cannot change everything, the troops have to change themselves…

“She has nice boobs (hmm)” – Sriv ROFLCOPTER

~Lorenzo Bean

 

Dropping By

Hey guys! I’m just dropping by to say hi! I think I’ll be back before New Years, which is about six weeks from now. I’ll go on xat mobile occasionally, so watch out for me. I hope to schedule a LOT when I get back, and some of that may be legal stuff. Stay active guys!

War Tomorrow

 Iceyfeet Edit: I am asking for EVERYONES HELP! You see, im trying to get my suggestion to be real and I need as many votes as I can. So please follow these steps:

1. Go to http://util.xat.com/vote/story.php?title=the-exchange
2. Make sure your logged in to your xat acount. If you arnt, click log in on the left side
3. Click “vote” on the left side under the number.
4. Spread the word to your friends.

My goal is to get 100+ votes by Saturday, November 21st. Remember, spread the word!

 

Well apparently we’re supposed to help ACP in a war against ST tomorrow. I don’t really think we’re going to end up doing much because this seems to be focused on ACP and ST, but if ST allies show up then it might be more exciting.

Date: Monday, November 16

Time:
3:00 pm PST
4:00 pm MST
5:00 pm CST
6:00 pm EST
11:00 pm UK

Server: Hibernate

Make sure you are on Ice Warriors chat for the war!

~Lorenzo Bean

No Division? They’ve been updated

Lorenzo Bean: The divisions have changed once again, this time they are permanent and the only changed in the future will be removing inactive troops and adding troops. If you have already commented on this post before I wrote this edit, check the Divisions page to see which one you are in now to see if you want to request a change. I have balanced them the best I can and will try to give you the division you want.

If you do not have a Division yet then please comment on this post by Wednesday, November 18th. I ask that you just comment saying you don’t have a Division, but if you REALLY want to be in one then comment which Division you would like to be in.

NOTE: You might not get to be in the Division you want to be, depending if the Division is full or how active you/the people in the Division are.

~War has come home~

bye for now,

~ Iceyfeet1234

3 reasons why the “War server” idea doesnt work.

Lorenzo Bean: I believe that the next “Mammoth” server is Sleet. Mostly because Sleet is already halfway to the point that Mammoth was at more than a year ago. The reason for this being all the rare and famous penguins migrated from Mammoth to Sleet after all the noobs started going on Mammoth. So, Sleet is just missing one thing to become the new Mammoth: Armies battling it out 24/7. Sleet normally has 3-5 bars around the clock, so non-members getting in would not be any more of a problem as it was with Mammoth when that was the war server. It’s not that hard to bring warfare to Sleet. Armies just have to schedule recruiting and all their battles on Sleet unless it’s an invasion of course. IW has already taken steps towards this, but we need everyone else to do it too if we want to succeed. I have been talking about Sleet being the next Mammoth for half a year now and no one really thought anything of it, so I’m glad I finally get to put this out there.

Edit: Here are some pictures from the war earlier today.

IW vs Crew.3

IW vs Crew.4

IW vs Crew
Ice Warriors-35 Crew-0
IW vs Crew.1
Ice Warriors-34 Nachos-9 Crew-0
IW vs Crew.2

Puffle Emote Charge Ice Warriors-30+ Crew-0

If you took any pictures of the war make sure to leave a comment with a link to the picture and we will add them to this post.

1. Outback isnt crowded enough.

The reason we dont use mammoth anymore is becuase its to crowded for non members. Back when Outback was made the second war server it was pretty popular, but now its empty.There arent any recruits for armies how are always to small to fight anyones else.

2. No one ever uses it

It was originally ment to be a place were you could go on and there would be someone to fight. but now there no one.

3. No one HAS a reason to use it.

If no ones invading it, whats the point of going on it. If an army wants to invade, they risk possesion of there other servers.

Possible solutions:

1. Choose a new server

Its that simple. We could just choose a new server. One that is crowded but not to crowded. The last page of servers has a few of these servers, and so does the 5 and 2 pages.

#’s 2 and 3. Divide up the server

We could just divide the server into seperate rooms. Each army could get a room to own, and they would try and battle for a room. The rooms that would be used as HQ’s would have to be unused, like the lodge attic, The bookroom, The nightclub Lounge, the underground, the beacon and maybe the cove.  Crowded rooms could be nuetral recruiting rooms (atleast until another army invades it)

Cya!
-Articsledder